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Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/20/2018 2:51 pm

Alright so as of June 20th 2018... President Trump signed the Executive Order to be voted in Congress , to end separating children from the adult.

To be clear, this "Law" of separate holdings was enacted under the Bush administration .. Separating the child from the adult ,they were with, is not Trumps idea.

However.. I see this also as providing safety for a child who is a part of human trafficking. Do you actually think they have time to do DNA test to determine if the child , an adult has, is their own?

Okay... so now If this is passed, [Congress approves it] now children will be incarcerated with the adults until the time of deportation. [Up to about 20 days].

Has anyone considered now [if passed] you're placing children with adults , in the same holding area? ..... And that often these children are not biological children of said-adults. ... That is human trafficking.

Is the child safest with the adults who brought them over illegally, or is the child safest separated until deportation?


ManneeedsWoman 57M

6/22/2018 3:15 am

The Trump administration is a disgrace to the legacy of this country. The CHOICE to rip children from their families is solely to please Trump's base. there is no law that requires this. The president and his cronies continue to lie to the American public and his supporters blindly follow him and believe that newspapers, civil rights lawyers, and international human rights organizations are "fake" news. Sadly, Republicans in Congress lack the balls to put a stop to this barbaric practice.


Kabooom2006 54M/54F  
15 posts
6/22/2018 7:11 am

The first issue is that you read something that was printed in the press and bought into the idea without fact checking or researching the subject. Had you taken the time to do so, you would have in fact found that the current law has been on the books way before Trump became POTUS.

The change that was made was actually enforcing the particular law which was widely ignored or handled differently by past administrations, but somehow all of this has become a recent issue. Why is that? Why wasn't there the same criticism and indignation during the past administrations. These are important questions to answer to understand the situation in its entirety.

The press themselves have done very little to investigate or research what they report on. They have only been repeating a narrative that is in line with a political agenda in an election year. It is quite sad that the press can influence the weak minded in such a manner.


manlikeskitty 59M
34 posts
6/23/2018 2:15 pm

Yews, please keep all the ILLEGAL families together and just forward them on to Canada where they will be welcomed with open arms, love, and free social benefits paid for by the Canadian taxpayers.


trisha_ann_glynn 51T
1982 posts
6/24/2018 12:13 am

There was some dramatic license with that news report. There are families being separated. The children are held at shelters while the adults are interrogated. The extreme measures are to determine who might be a possible terrorist, drug smuggler, gun smuggler, child smuggler or transporter for prostitution. And if they pass all those stations. Check to see if they might be Mexican.


alohashirt50 73M

6/25/2018 9:46 am

do people on here have any idea how many children are separated from their family's by our court system? Division of Child and family services, divorces, Family courts, Foster care services? But that doesn't matter because this is about being anti-Trump and dems/libs loosing an election. Unvetted illegals coming crossing our borders , who knows who they are? Obama brought in Muslims and now we have Muslim training camps, you can ask your computer where they are. We have hungry people all over this country, and i'd safely say 99.9% of you do not volunteer to help feed or clothe these people. I do and I enjoy it, I don't enjoy seeing our citizens hungry, or abused by our government.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/25/2018 12:37 pm

    Quoting alohashirt50:
    do people on here have any idea how many children are separated from their family's by our court system? Division of Child and family services, divorces, Family courts, Foster care services? But that doesn't matter because this is about being anti-Trump and dems/libs loosing an election. Unvetted illegals coming crossing our borders , who knows who they are? Obama brought in Muslims and now we have Muslim training camps, you can ask your computer where they are. We have hungry people all over this country, and i'd safely say 99.9% of you do not volunteer to help feed or clothe these people. I do and I enjoy it, I don't enjoy seeing our citizens hungry, or abused by our government.
They don't have any idea... they are just upset because Hilary didn't get it and want to have a big whine.

Nothing about this separating children from the adult , at illegal border crossing is new. ....Many administrations did this... Bush, Clinton, Obama....and Trump.

There are 25 legal ports of entry where anyone can enter through and request asylum or legal citizenship.


nicelipss66 48F
24236 posts
6/25/2018 9:06 pm

You are correct. they are abusing children at the border. they are putting them in cages.

But the problem goes beyond that, They are moving children in the middle of the night to different cities. Why do something like that in the dark??? What is or was their final plan that they had for those children if not caught and exposed by every day citizens???

June 30th, there will be a big March in Washington, DC and many other large cities in USA of people protesting this Trump administration policy. It is despicable that they feel the need to put children in jail and cages. I will for sure be there protesting demanding freedom for all those children some who are only months old.

This is not about red or blue, this is about Right or Wrong.

Great post Cinnamon!!!


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/25/2018 9:46 pm

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    You are correct. they are abusing children at the border. they are putting them in cages.

    But the problem goes beyond that, They are moving children in the middle of the night to different cities. Why do something like that in the dark??? What is or was their final plan that they had for those children if not caught and exposed by every day citizens???

    June 30th, there will be a big March in Washington, DC and many other large cities in USA of people protesting this Trump administration policy. It is despicable that they feel the need to put children in jail and cages. I will for sure be there protesting demanding freedom for all those children some who are only months old.

    This is not about red or blue, this is about Right or Wrong.

    Great post Cinnamon!!!
You unbelievably foolish woman... . This practice has been going on since way back when you were in your mid teens.

A lot of those children are not with their parents, often they are part of child trafficking.


nicelipss66 48F
24236 posts
6/25/2018 11:06 pm

    Quoting Heathen_G:
    You unbelievably foolish woman... . This practice has been going on since way back when you were in your mid teens.

    A lot of those children are not with their parents, often they are part of child trafficking.
Foolish people don't get informed or do anything to look outside from their own fog, that is why a fool is especially vulnerable to seduction, lacking an understanding of the irreversible consequences of moral failure. cause they fail to keep their leaders with checks and balances.

Foolish people are the ones that don't want others to think differently than they do and troll other people opinion(s) that don't agree with them.

I am NOT doing any of the above in this post. I am simply expressing my concerns, what I believe in and what I will do to help the situation of those children affected.

I can read, I informed myself in many aspects before speaking my voice. I know about politicians, politics and United States history. I know about the history and politics of this country more than many people that were born here. I don't wait or seat around for individuals like you to come point me in the supposed "correct" direction.

I stand correct when I say that this is a Trump administration policy. he started The "Zero Tolerance Policy" for Border crossings, that was announce by Attorney General Jeff Sessions Jeff Sessions, May 8th, if not mistaking. There were other immigration policies put in place before that, but not one of them included separating families and throwing their children in cages. Trump started that policy and weeks later he ended it by signing a executive order cause of the backlash that they were getting from the public for such inhumane policy.

I don't understand why if they are so proud of this policy, They don't want to own it. Not matter what color lipstick they put on the pig, it what it is.

I will make this clear, I will only answer you this time. I don't want to bring this to a debate, cause sometimes you can't reason with people, that goes for you and me. Sometimes the stage of your life determines what kind of people you will agree or disagree with, simple as that.


doggydog65 60M
42 posts
6/26/2018 6:19 pm

Dunn fucking lib-terds


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
6/26/2018 9:09 pm

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    Foolish people don't get informed or do anything to look outside from their own fog, that is why a fool is especially vulnerable to seduction, lacking an understanding of the irreversible consequences of moral failure. cause they fail to keep their leaders with checks and balances.

    Foolish people are the ones that don't want others to think differently than they do and troll other people opinion(s) that don't agree with them.

    I am NOT doing any of the above in this post. I am simply expressing my concerns, what I believe in and what I will do to help the situation of those children affected.

    I can read, I informed myself in many aspects before speaking my voice. I know about politicians, politics and United States history. I know about the history and politics of this country more than many people that were born here. I don't wait or seat around for individuals like you to come point me in the supposed "correct" direction.

    I stand correct when I say that this is a Trump administration policy. he started The "Zero Tolerance Policy" for Border crossings, that was announce by Attorney General Jeff Sessions Jeff Sessions, May 8th, if not mistaking. There were other immigration policies put in place before that, but not one of them included separating families and throwing their children in cages. Trump started that policy and weeks later he ended it by signing a executive order cause of the backlash that they were getting from the public for such inhumane policy.

    I don't understand why if they are so proud of this policy, They don't want to own it. Not matter what color lipstick they put on the pig, it what it is.

    I will make this clear, I will only answer you this time. I don't want to bring this to a debate, cause sometimes you can't reason with people, that goes for you and me. Sometimes the stage of your life determines what kind of people you will agree or disagree with, simple as that.
If placing children and adults together...from illegal entries....then you have the problem of potentially placing the children with child-traffickers.


1st_downonu 68M
443 posts
6/27/2018 4:38 am

Trump 2020!!!


alohashirt50 73M

6/27/2018 9:19 am

    Quoting  :

ugly trolls because they are not democrats? Good thing that the majority doesn't rule when it come to voting. Herd mentality is like following lemmings. Now that things are a little way down the road we see who the liars are, and what has taken place. Exonerate Hillary before an investigation is even started about her emails, then frame Trump and try and remove him from office, then try and reverse the election results, (no Trump/Russia collusion), attack republican representatives in public, and Trump supporters, so the dems stand for +open borders, get rid of Trumps tax cuts(we can't have that), reinstate Obama care, increase taxes. With all the money we spend on crap why not just give each and every American citizen, babies to adults 1 million dollars tax free??? It's only about 300 million dollars give or take a couple of million.


Will4funinbc9 63M
202 posts
6/28/2018 7:30 pm

Hello my old friend it’s been a while. It’s all lies the media in the US is anti Trumph They are all lieing things are better here in the US than it’s been in the last 12 years. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. Hope you are well


Will4funinbc9 63M
202 posts
6/28/2018 7:44 pm

Really truly you feel that way. I have struggled the last 12 to 15 years trying to keep my head above water. Taxes and health care almost broke me. I work my ass off and have been going backwards for years. This is the first time is Years I will will finish ahead. I am tired of taking care of the ones who choose not to work and expect me to take care of them!!!


kzoopair 73M/71F
25831 posts
6/30/2018 3:01 am

Cinnamon, great post! I agree with you completely. America is having a psychotic episode due to the collusion-and perfect storm- of racists, misogynists and imbeciles who think that the demonstration of their jealousy and hatred of other people will somehow result in their own salvation. This isn't the time to pull punches- these Americans are fucking stupid. I want to single out Heathen as one of the most craven of the trolls who take advantage of the stupidity of Trump supporters. Heathen trolls posts like yours not because he loves or supports Trump,but because he simply loves trolling. For years he's been attacking the posts of women on this site just because they're women. Women generally don't like Heathen because he's an insufferable asshole, but he continually belittles their posts, trying to demonstrate his intellectual superiority by picking at either a single phrase or line in their posts to show how detached and rigorous his thinking is. It's boring, mostly on account of him being a dumb ass. The fact is, Heathen doesn't believe his own bullshit. He's just another fucking troll, like CarbonRoadBike and Division7. His is such a small world, devoid of female companionship and dominated by the action of his own warm hand and he's trying very hard to demonstrate that he doesn't need anyone or anything. Heathen is actually a clone of Milo Yiannopoulos, a self loathing gay man whose hatred of himself is manifested by the pretense of outward hatred of all other people no matter what their sexual preference, gender identity or political persuasion. The prick simply hates everyone, including and most especially himself. I advise you to ignore the fuckwit. Nothing he says or writes has any real bearing on what intelligent human beings might think. He is a distraction only if you pay him any attention at all. He's an infant and not a very pleasant infant at that. You might almost suspect that he'd been removed from his mother at an early age to be so emotionally twisted. As for the other ostensible Trump supporters who commented on your post- brush the dirt off your shoulders and consider the source. They are mere cyphers, idiots. A man who cannot see the truth of your post is no man at all but the mere unthinking minion of a narcissist fascist fraud, too foolish to think for himself and more than willing to be the dupe of a charlatan and a fraud.

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timHuntley 42M
10 posts
7/1/2018 9:42 pm

Well, I didn't vote for him.


astute2r3 68M

7/2/2018 6:02 am

Haven't immigration laws been in place for decades? Why are some complaining about enforcement now? Whom of us allowed those concerned American laws to be put in place and why have they not been followed by those whom were allegedly hired and paid, with tax payers money again to enforce the laws that we paid to have made into USA Laws? Seems there are many whom don't recall the laws that our tax dollars have paid others to implement in the first place. Why is that? Is there some disconnect with legally documented facts?


alohashirt50 73M

7/2/2018 6:58 am

    Quoting coreyoral4u2015:
    I will speak for a MAJORITY of Americans - we are embarrassed and ashamed of our President who is factually a pathological liar, serial adulterer, sexual predator, racist and narcissist, and anyone who vigorously supports him believes in those values and is happy that he is an abomination because he is the first idiot to promote the very things that his base believe in which are disgusting. I always enjoy asking his 20% fan base if they want their children to emulate him. He leads like a dictator and lies purposely because his base is so ignorant and lazy that they never research his lies... they just believe. They watch the propaganda channel named Fox News and read the national enquirer. Which is more embarrassing the president or his base? Which is more embarrassing the president or republicans in Congress? As for your question how is this allowed, the President is a racist as are many republicans in Congress and their fan bases... so they pushed this through. Majority in Congress helps and a dumb racist electorate also helps.
you sound like CNN, how come nothing said about the democrats? And you do not speak for the majority of Americans. My children are to savy to emulate any politican or president. Whats embarrassing is seeing a person spewing stuff like you are. Why not mention the fake dossier, the way the FISHA judge was lied to about getting spy warrants, the way the dems are trying to frame the president and reverse the election results because Hillary lost. Or why the democrats even thought that Hillary would win.??


Chuckk48 67M

7/2/2018 12:35 pm

How is this allowed? You ask.......This is allowed when a large percentage of Americans don't vote. This is what happens when you allow a minority to run the country. Hopefully the silver lining here is we in America will learn our votes do count, they are important and a true American will take the time and make the effort to cast his vote.


hightops41 47M
810 posts
7/3/2018 10:10 am

The media is full of BS. Democrats cry about anything anymore.
Trump is trying to do good.


hightops41 47M
810 posts
7/3/2018 10:12 am

I am here for the pussy not the politics


Avalokiteshva 64M
20 posts
7/3/2018 11:00 am

This is going to bring out the room-temperature-IQed, knuckle-dragging, inbred Trump worshipers for sure.

I hope you're wearing your asbestos flack jacket.

अवलोकितेश्वर


alohashirt50 73M

7/3/2018 12:01 pm

    Quoting Avalokiteshva:
    This is going to bring out the room-temperature-IQed, knuckle-dragging, inbred Trump worshipers for sure.

    I hope you're wearing your asbestos flack jacket.
this coming from a person in California, the state that the democrats ruined?? so Trump voters are inbred ect, what about Moon Beam voters, ??


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